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Update on the service with my Auris. Yesterday I did service number 31 since new and 26th of my own. This time not many things, just engine oil, oil filter, air filter and cabin filter. Topped up a bit of coolant , and screen wash. Under bonnet inspection, suspension, and undercarriage checks. Nothing unusual here, but the rust progressively eats my car. Apart from that all looks good. Engine oil at 9k miles intervals looked typically darker, I used stp engine flush again and the oil came out so thin, almost like water. Cabin and air filter not too dirty this time but cheap enough to replace often, nothing it’s better than new. Now the tyres, I did first rotating since I bought them back in February. Total travelled 11000 miles. The fronts were around 7-7.5mm , and rears at 8mm. Next rotating will be cross pattern and will do the brakes, clean and lube and put a new wipers , projected date will be October as I don’t drive as much as before (3 service per year instead of 5)😊

My car was with the dealership for 6 weeks. After a month I did lodge a complaint by email at which point I was given an anticipated delivery date for the parts. This helped me in that it gave me something to look forward to. Leaving the customer waiting without any idea of how long he is going to have to wait is surely not acceptable. I am pleased to say my Yaris is now back with me and running well.

Of course I don't know if the orginal battery will fail, but many have.....if it was the car I'm driving, maybe I'd do some of that stuff, but I wont be the main driver...the car its replacing has been a bombproof volvo of many years service, my wife checks there's enough fuel, turns the key, engine starts and off she goes, ... just want to replicate that as much as possible.... what I do know is if it fails, she's stranded and I'm miles away or in another country , me pointing to posts in here or that other people never have the issue will be thin gruel compared to the long term ear ache coming my way 🙂

But how do you know the battery will go bad in your particular car? You are aware of the situation, you know your driving needs and patterns and you believe that this car will have a 12v battery problem shortly after purchase?! If me I will either not buy this car or wait the battery to die first and then replace it. Because there is a higher chance this won’t happen., or at least not so soon after purchase. Just do all necessary things to maintain your car and 12v system. No need to plug in solar chargers, smart chargers, do anything really. Turn off all unnecessary auto functions, mirrors, parking brake, home lights , and connected services. Once you start the car keep in ready mode for 30 min and you will not need to replace battery. People are coming here to complain about bad Toyota hybrids 12v battery and then go and never return. But we have members that visit every day and they barely have any issues with their Toyota cars.

Haha, thanks. These wheels off look so cool 😎

Replacing the battery doesn't mean it does not need a ready mode to maintain low usage.

It’s the bare metal parts that used to be black when new. Suspension, shocks, springs, stabiliser bar, and that chassis as well. The main structure along the length of the car where rigidity beams are connected. Then we have outside the whole body has started to have rust spots and particularly rear arches, on the roof and doors, these places had been bombarded by rocks and from the salt during winter, here in uk it’s crazy. Salt been thrown on the roads even at 6C° at night between October to May.

Then you should choose whichever you prefer / fancy ... The Mk2 C-HR is just that - it will be better than the Mk1 in almost every way, but only marginally so. And it is only a Mk 2 of an existing model so there is pretty much no risk of nasty surprises. It's clear that the sales of the Mk2 have been slower than Toyota would have like - hence there are offers and discounts to be had on the Mk2. Equally, the Mk1 has now been superseded which should, logically anyway, impact the resale value of the Mk1 - so you should be able to find attractively priced, recent, examples of the Mk1. My wife has a 2021 2.0 C-HR and recently test drove a 1.8 Mk2 which she thought was a very nice drive and not noticeable down on power - so, she'd be very happy driving a Mk2 instead. But we won't be changing just yet - why spend quite a lot more money on a car than is marginally better but, in reality, does exactly the same job her current car does? Choose whichever you prefer - you can't lose ... 😉

While the wheels are off Tony, have you considered fitting 22 inch chrome spoked , with spinners? They look a treat with purple LEDs backlighting, and yellow hand painted callipers.

I have raised a ticket with them to see what they say. I can’t imagine two years of no updates, seems daft when my old system with memory stick updates got one every 6 months.

To be honest, if in the example I have given, if the petrol engine kicks in 100 times whilst in READY mode, I don't care, I just want to know if it will be ok.

Have you looked at a quote from Toyota Insurance itself ? https://toyotamotorinsurance.co.uk

Although I understand that the A/C is powered from the Hybrid battery I get the feeling, rightly or wrongly that the 12v battery charges up more quickly if the A/C is not on. Certainly the petrol engine cuts in less often if you keep it off. Just a gut feeling from my own experience, not science based.

Missus picked up her 24 MY Yaris Cross Excel, 2 X keyless fobs supplied & it has Falken 18" tyres. More tech fitted then my C-HR 😅

The last picture a couple of posts above is ace 🤣So you kept it 'till the wheels fell off... bwhhahaha That is some serious mileage Tony, brilliant.

That does look promising - many thanks for that! Have contacted them to check availablity. Thanks again!

Experiencing the same, connected to WiFi and no check now button, just states no updates available. Fiddling around though, nice to know we can watch some YouTube on it 🤣

Yes, it was the fuse and not a easy location at all Why it blew, who knows, maybe the wireless charging pad I'm using, so I may stop using that.

SWMBO is very fussy when it comes to cars!! It must be automatic, have a memory seat and auto boot, other than that she quite likes white as a colour!

I'd rather replace the battery than obligatorily keep the car in ready mode for 30 min but maybe I'm weird 😛

the only thing I have come across is from South Africa it looks about right https://modernautoparts.co.za/products/cmk190-7315p?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=b2c73d4c8&pr_rec_pid=7454168219879&pr_ref_pid=7454911332583&pr_seq=uniform the distributor is partquip in SA

We have two Corolla's one TS (72 Plate) one HB (23 Plate), the TS received an update just after we took delivery, but the HB hasn't received any updates. We have notify enabled on both cars. In the HB we now have a mobile Wifi router and nothing has come through. I'll connect one of the cars to the home wifi to see if anything comes up tonight when I get home. There is no check now button on either car, certainly wish there was, it would make life a lot easier.

That's also in the 2019 Corolla as I've had it happen to me a few times - had it last week in fact. The '19 also sometimes 'forgets' to turn off the proximity alert on some occasions. I've only ever had it when entering my garage and I think it's the front off-side corner. Thankfully it clears when you put the car in Park.

I've just been to Le Mans, and the french motorways (with toll) are just superb. Silky smooth surface, no holes, bumps or repairs, and very little road noise with 80-85 mph. Coming to Germany is another story.... Loud, noisy, bumpy with any speed, just a pure pain in comparison with the french.

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek, I suppose they have to do it particularly if a test drive is required but I'm sure they do it sometimes just driving it into the garage.

Just remember when you go on Google tomorrow Chiropractor starts with a C not a K 🤪

We've just traded our 2021 Excel 2.0 mk1 for a 1.8 Design mk2. We still have a 2021 Orange Edition 2.0 mk1 for ongoing comparison. Not had the new one long enough for a comprehensive report but early thoughts are: It feels a bit less spacious inside, I think partly due to the fence between the centre console and the passenger leg space. The seating position is a bit different, but it might just be lack of full adjustment the electric seats offered in our mk1's. The seats have more extreme bolstering on the base and sides so might annoy those with a larger frame, or perhaps carry a wallet in a back pocket etc. Engine/padding/cabin quieter, but in my experience of Toyotas in recent years they get a bit noisier as they age. Engine kicks in less. The difference in power between the 2.0 and the new 1.8 during normal driving is hardly noticeable but it gets noisy quicker when driven a bit more heavy footed. Fuel economy so far beats the 2.0. It looks much newer inside. The customisable dash and the big screen are nice but the constant dings from the road sign recognition are a pain, as is the lane depart system.

Low mileage, short journey usage... wife's car .. dont have time/inclination to be charging or putting solar charger on....wife wouldn't be confident/knoweldable to use booster ....if it avoids just one incident of battery failure and being stranded then more than worth the small cost which I got further discounted off the purchase price

What a waste of money …. “Why fix what you don’t know to be broken” !

….. especially if being kept for 5 years. Any difference in value between a 24 & 74 plate at that point won’t be significant.

It does cope. I often sit in the rain listening to music with ac or heater on. the ice recharges the battery… yeah.. no drama

When my car was in for service they gave me a hybrid i drove to a supermarket and sat in the car in ready mode while the wife did some shopping i had the air-con and radio on and when the battery got to approx 1/4 the ICE kicked in boosted the battery then shut down again very quiet and seamless.

Thanks for the info Paul, much appreciated. If anyone here on the form has a 23 Plate Gen 5 (mine is an Excel HB) or a 72 Plate Gen 4 (TS GR Sport) I'd be really interested in the version numbers of the software. Really appreciate any help

Try @DAN@ADRIAN FLUX

Finally found the Trek cars on Autotrader. That number is now down to 8 - best sounding one was a 2021 in Honiton, Devon. Reckon I’ll just look at the standard Corolla cars - may be that loss of the extra 200mm height will not be a problem. Will get a bigger choice of car this way.

It always disturbs me how many people pick a car based purely on what colour it is!!

Polish

I think so. But to be sure you can open glove box in position for cabin filter replacement and switch to recirculating mode and look at the flap opening. Most cars it’s just above the cabin filter.

see the N 3 in that diagram that means the sensor is not supplied on its own due to maintaining the function/quality of the part (in other words they don't want you messing with the calibration) 7801052021 is for an LHD, Japanese-built diesel, so you are not in Dublin as per your profile, Italy maybe

But is likely to have been applied to all cars built in the last six months or more - else we'll see a good number of pre-registered cars or brand-new cars going back to be retrofitted ...

There doesn’t seem to be a check now button on the facelift 23+. I connected to WiFi but all I have is a button to be notified when there are updates available.

Toyota does seem to have over-done this EU rule. I have just driven a brand new Peugeot 2008 hire car from Alicante for around 100km on a variety of roads and only got bonged at when going over 30 in a 30. All other excesses or change of limit were only met with a flashing sign on the instrument panel. I could live with that. Presumably this car also adheres to the regulations indicating Toyota have gone beyond what is required.

It does seem to be a common failure yes, there was a thread not so long ago about the same issue with failing LED strips on late model Mk3 Yaris. Sometimes it seems to be a better bet to have the lower models in the range such as mine that have standard incandescent bulbs for the DRL, and if they fail its just the cost of a single light bulb. Integrated LEDs are a bad idea as you and others have found out as they cant be replaced. Some people have attempted repairs on them but you need to be quite technical minded to be able to do this. See the article on this link:

Ohio! Connie-Chee-Wah! Ari-Gateaux Mr Roboto! Sorry my japanese is nearly as useless as my Finnish...

I cannot see the dealer...or in fact any business ...waiting for you , to take delivery, for that length of time?

@TonyHSD I have noticed that a used Toyota Yaris Cross loses a lot less money than a Chr. Friend has just traded in his 1 year old 1.8 Chr to Even Beagell for 50% less than he paid for it.

That doesn't look like it's factory installed. Then I would have expected a clear label or symbol to indicate its function. Alarm, immobiliser, extra lights? Pull the panel out and follow the wiring...

Thank you I tried doors and boot - it did not help. Fob battery was replaced 2 weeks ago. Eventually, i pressed Start/stop button once without pressing the foot brake and it solved the problem straight away. to my understanding the car was in kind of ignition mode... not sure why

The dealer is right it wasn't factory fit but it is what Toyota term as "Port of entry" this means it was fit in the UK by Toyota GB. These units are a Motorola and were STD fit to some editions like the Blue and also available in the Toyota accessories brochures.

As another Yaris owner I am fully aware of the inadequacy of the 12 volt battery. I probably would not have bought the car had I known of this problem in advance. I regularly leave the car a week while I use the camper and always CTEC the battery to a full charge the day before I leave and then plug a Ring 2.4 watt solar panel left on the dash using the direct plug under the dash. Easy to find. If I'm away from home such as in self catering and walking each day I just leave the car in ready mode for an hour every three days with a steering wheel lock on it so I don't have to sit with it. At an airport the car is usually fully charged on arrival so I just add the solar and always have a 12 volt power station in the boot. Just in case. Only other hybrid behaviour I use is when I take the wife for short shopping trip locally I never switch the ignition off just wait in the car in ready mode. No radio or heat and let the 12 volt continue to charge. That's been my way of dealing with the problem. Hope that helps.